Looks like they circled a couple times and tried to head back to the airport. Sheriff Ron Johnson told KPLC that the plane crashed on a small island between Hackberry and Big Lake, near Pete Seay Circle. An uncontrollable dive in an otherwise intact 182 certainly brings the elevator performance into the picture.Thanks for including the link to the FAA's "Dirty Dozen" of human-factor issues related to maintenance practices - good reading for 182 owners. Provided by Lake Charles KPLC Rock Palermo and Don Clements were killed in a plane crash near Hackberry, on Tuesday, Feb. 2, 2021. No obvious reason so far for not pulling out from the dive. Also, the known aeronautical capabilities of one of the pilots, a CFI, who was well respected at the sheriff's office as their Chief Pilot do not point to pilot competence issues. According to the airplane broker, on the day of the accident the private pilot called to report that he had just completed a 1-hour flight in the accident airplane to satisfy the insurance policy requirements. He is survived by his wife, Nancy, and their children, Mary Kathryn and Will. They took off, flew out somewhere to do a bunch of maneuvers, were flying back some distance, got close to home, decided to try a slow roll, smurfed it, augered it straight into the mud. Youtube guy Dan Gryder claims to have found the third blade at the crash site. Plane nosedived 15 feet into the ground, according to NTSB report on Hackberry plane crash. The fuel selector valve was found positioned to feed from both fuel tanks. NTSB releases report on deadly plane crash that killed Rock Palermo, Don Clements, Barbe High orchestra plays at Lake Charles Airport, Lake Charles residents concerned about cracked pavement. "Tue 06:41:31 PM 29.9490 -93.3408 351 110 127 4,225 367 Climbing Tue 06:41:50 PM 29.9582 -93.3425 352 116 133 4,275 Level Tue 06:42:06 PM 29.9667 -93.3437 356 115 132 4,225 47 Climbing Tue 06:42:22 PM 29.9747 -93.3442 359 95 109 4,300 214 Climbing Tue 06:42:41 PM 29.9824 -93.3438 9 82 94 4,350 36 Climbing Tue 06:43:04 PM 29.9898 -93.3416 20 66 76 4,325 -205 Descending Tue 06:43:25 PM Tue 06:43:25 PM 29.9947 -93.3391 29 56 64 4,200 -357 Descending. The families have been notified, they report. Nothing in the report suggests "airplane attitude was flat with nose close to the horizon. This is the perfect weekend to get outdoors! The flight was operated as a Title 14 Code of Federal Regulations Part 91 instructional flight. They consider him a mentor and the best pilot they knew. He was a certified flight instructor and passed on his joy of flying to many. Hes just one of those people you cant replace.. "It is a great loss for the department and the entire community," officials said at a press conference, "It didn't matter the time of day or night who was in trouble, if it was in another parish and they needed our plane he would jump in and take over.". A man who was the pilot and attorney for a southwest Louisiana sheriffs office and a second person were killed when their small plane crashed in a neighboring parish, apparently during a flying lesson. AGENCY:Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), DOT.ACTION:Notice of proposed rulemaking (NPRM).SUMMARY:The FAA proposes to adopt a new airworthiness directive (AD) for all Textron Aviation Inc. (Textron) Models 180, 180A, 180B, 180C, 180D, 180E, 180F, 180G, 180H, 180J, 180K, 182, 182A, 182B, 182C, 182D, 185, 185A, 185B, 185C, 185D, 185E, A185E, and A185F airplanes. The report said two of the propellers three blades were on the hub at the nose of the plane, but the third was not found. AD is for problems that showed up on the tail draggers.Models 182 through 182D airplanes have the same tailcone design as Model 185-series tail draggers. That's why this case caught my attention. NTSB should already know if that was evident.Still a head scratcher. It's their job to travel to accident sites to determine the cause. The last of ADS-B data from Flight Aware only shows the start of the incident. But in this case, the airplane attitude was flat with nose close to the horizon, wings level (except for the last turn to the east), all the way to impact. Romanian billionaire Dan Petrescu and his family were killed in . Figure 1 shows the end of the recorded flight track and the accident location. Stony Plain pilot Michael Clements has died following a plane crash in Spokane, Washington, reports a . Beefier police presence planned at football game after BRPD chief got into scuffle while making arrest near campus. BATON ROUGE, La. The plane took off again about 5:13 p.m. and crashed about a half-hour later. The Veron Bice family is saddened by the loss of our founding partner, Rock Palermo. The Global Asset Management Group family is saddened by the loss of our dearest friend and colleague, Don Clements. Two of the propeller blades remained attached to the propeller hub and one blade was not recovered. The Boeing 737, which had flown from Dubai, skidded off the runway . They were aboard a 1979 Cessna 182Q, of which Clements had recently become part owner of.. Im still waiting on the full report from N8991W. Flight instructors consider Palermo a friend, mentor and best pilot they ever met. I had a nearly half-scale Spacewalker that weighed only 25 pounds. No CFI would loop or allow his student to loop a 182.Not surprised that your "gut feeling" was criticized. Other questions:subscriberservices@theadvocate.com. The Global Asset Management Group family is saddened by the loss of our dearest friend and colleague, Don Clements. HACKBERRY, La. etc. All rights reserved. We appreciate everyone's prayers Clements was a financial planner with Global Asset Management. HACKBERRY, La. Records show that the days first flight ended about 2:36 p.m. Louisiana authorities had identified the pilot earlier as Richard Don Clements and his instructor as Rock Palermo. NTSB, do your job. The wings had separated from the fuselage and were crushed aft to the rear wing spar. The Veron Bice family is saddened by the loss of our founding partner, Rock Palermo. 0:47. LSU pitcher Paul Skenes LSU women's basketball beats Georgia 83-66 in SEC Tournament matchup. well the only thing to attempt if it disconnected is nose up elevator trim, if that is working, but if you are pointed straight down, that might not have enough time to work. "HACKBERRY, La. They're not "investigating" anything. @Trimble - No CFI would roll or allow his student to roll a 182.Your first paragraph seems to be describing a loop, not a roll. 4 LSU women's basketball Watch the 2 Your Health report for Friday, March 3, 2023. Straight line from where? In previous comments I made elsewhere, I was just speculating. Theyre very easy to fly and one of the reasons a lot of people choose to fly them is because theyre so safe, said Thompson, describing such arcraft. There was a problem saving your notification. Authorities first got a call around 5:47 p.m. Tuesday of a plane flying low, then disappearing, Cameron Parish Sheriff Don Johnson said Tuesday evening. Palermo was flying a Cessna 182 like one he owned, still parked at a local hangar. Googled the N number to find the NTSB report and ended up here, Ive never seen this site before, Ive never commented here, So I appologise if my comment is not welcome. He was preceded in death by his father, Joseph R. Palermo, Jr. Rock delighted in all things involving his family. Cameron Parish and Calcasieu Parish authorities worked throughout the night investigating the crash, but are turning over the investigation to a Federal Aviation Administration crew out of Baton Rouge and a National Transportation Safety Board team out of Dallas. LSU pitcher Paul Skenes LSU women's basketball beats Georgia 83-66 in SEC Tournament matchup. yeah these are the crashes that really bother me --the unknown cause ones .That's when I consider --should I really be flying planes ? The airplane began a slow descent, which increased rapidly until the final recorded point. He serves on the LSU Law Center Trial Advocacy faculty. A debris field that consisted of the wings and smaller airplane components extended about 40 yards from the crater. Rock Palermo and Don Clements were killed in the crash, Johnson said. Don is survived by his wife, Nancy Edith Shaddock Clements, and their two children, Mary Kathryn Clements and William Don Clements. Rock Palermo and Don Clements were killed Tuesday night when the small plane they were in crashed in Cameron Parish. They both observed the bottom of the airplane and did not notice any rotational movement. File photo of police lights (iStockPhoto). CG was okay. Take notice how he said it: "I found it and it's still there." LAKE CHARLES, La. Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:57 am to Lithium. In the N3RB accident, the tuber wrongly asserted that the pilot murdered a co-pilot.Unfortunately, those enthusiastic followers who ignore the tuber's established pattern of false claims and obvious click baiting don't care about defined NTSB/FAA roles or delegation.The biggest tell of the whole charade is exploitation of the accident victim's loved ones. Copyright 2021 KPLC. He is survived by his wife, Nancy, and their children, Mary Kathryn and Will. The plane took off again about 5:13 p.m. and crashed about a half-hour later. The Cessna 182 was destroyed when it crashed straight down onto an island northeast of Hackberry in Cameron Parish and sank 15 feet (4.6 meters) down into the soft soil, the NTSB preliminary report said. Then the day of the accident, Clements completed a one-hour flight around 2:30 p.m. in the plane as an insurance policy requirement without any complications. Anyone who cared about the families and somehow detected the blade, would not rest until investigators obtained the blade. You have permission to edit this article. Makes no sense to claim "non-existent investigation" when the preliminary report describes verification of control continuity by examination for tensile overload separations and a determination of as-found fuel selector position. One of his proudest moments was in 2016 when he presented his daughter, Mary Kathryn as the Princess Music of Lincoln Center. Extremely unlikely that one pilot would decide to kill himself with another pilot in the plane. When the last jumper goes out or you're doing a hammerhead stall in a glider and the aircraft is simply falling out of the sky, pointed straight down at the ground, you get comfortable waiting for the wing to start flying before easing back on the elevator. The data showed that the airplane maneuvered near the coast then proceeded north as the altitude and airspeed increased. He was happiest in the clouds. Two witnesses told investigators that the plane plunged nose-down, without any rotation. The National Transportation Safety Board said the single-engine plane crashed around 9:30 a.m. The empennage was crushed and distorted. As an. The youtube guy's 3rd dramatic video came out but has no photo or any mention about the missing blade. The report did not identify any witnesses by name. The impact crater is 15 feet deep and wings were crushed aft to the rear wing spar.Can't crush wings rearward like that or crater that deep coming in level. Prior to his career as a Financial Advisor, Don worked as a trader in the energy business, and as a CPA in a public accounting firm. Think about the circumstances that would fit with acceptance of not finding the missing blade.Examination of the recovered prop hub must have clearly indicated that the blade was thrown during flight, not broken out during impact. NEW ORLEANS (AP) The pilot who died in a Feb. 2 plane crash in Louisiana had just bought a share in the aircraft, and the other man killed in the crash was his instructor, the National Transportation Safety Board reported Thursday. Distance To/From what? They introduced their family to the joys of diving. Don't get taken in by the constant criticism of NTSB and FAA efforts. Bold criminal secretly relaunched massage parlor prostitution ring as he cut a deal with prosecutors. BATON ROUGE - One week into Lent and the crawfish market is seeing one of its first significant drops of the season. Dockets reflect additional in-depth efforts made between initial examination and completion of the investigations.The nonsensical "flat disc effect" story is on par with the critic's untrue claim about finding the missing blade from this 182 or the untrue claim that the pilot of N3RB murdered a co-pilot. Authorities first got a call around 5:47 p.m. Tuesday of a plane flying low, then disappearing, Johnsons said. Rock Palermo and Don Clements were killed in the crash, Johnson said. The descent then increased rapidly. Authorities first got a call around 5:47 p.m. Tuesday of a plane flying low, then disappearing, Johnsons said. The tail plane remained, perhaps, in an out of stall all the way to the ground. Pallbearers are Todd Ammons, Kirk Clements, Bob Harp, Joseph Pousson, Kevin Robbins, and Henry Riquelmy. Palermo was an instructor on the flight and Clements was a student. Fatal flight: full fuel and two heavy guys in the front. An obituary for Rock Palermo can be found HERE. This is certainly one of the most mysterious 182 crashes in recent history. It would seem the elevator itself could be jammed instead. Two witnesses told investigators that the plane plunged nose-down, without any rotation. It seems odd it's damn near nose down like that unless it was human input which, would hate to think that. 4 LSU women's basketball Watch the 2 Your Health report for Friday, March 3, 2023. Palermo and Clements were aboard a plane like this Cessna 182 when they were killed. Clemente's plane was allegedly "unfit" to fly. All rights reserved. Rock touched many, many people and this is about as tough a loss as you can get for this office and this community, Mancuso said. NEW ORLEANS The pilot who died in a Feb. 2 plane crash in Louisiana had just bought a share in the aircraft, and the other man killed in the crash was his instructor, the National Transportation Safety Board reported Thursday. Rock touched many, many people and this is about as tough a loss as you can get for this office and this community, Mancuso said. Scene of plane crash near Hackberry in Cameron Parish February 3, 2021 . Mancuso was visibly upset by his passing as spoke to those assembled, "He is one of those people you can't replace.". The Tigers beat out No. Give Light and the People Will Find Their Own Way. Sign up for newsletters emailed to your inbox. On January 30, 1993, Don married the love of his life, Nancy Edith Shaddock Clements, at the First United Methodist Church in Lake Charles, LA. Observation Facility, Elevation: KLCH,9 ft msl, Distance from Accident Site: 9 Nautical Miles, Wind Speed/Gusts, Direction: 4 knots / , 200, Latitude, Longitude: 30.009412,-93.330048 (est). An ATP-rated CFI teaching another pilot, good weather, an aircraft known to be fairly reliable and having docile characteristics. ADVERTISEMENT. Flight control cable continuity was established for all flight control surfaces through tensile overload separations in several locations. Dr. Kevin Dupke, the Cameron Parish coroner, said he was at the crash site Wednesday with federal investigators and could not confirm the second mans name. woman accused of using aunts debit card for 136 DoorDash orders held on preset $18 million bond, Juvenile injured after homemade pipe bomb detonated, police say. Don graduated with a Bachelor of Science in Accounting from Louisiana Tech University. Single engine, one of the most reliable planes on the planet. Mancuso apologized for his demeanor and outburst of emotion during the conference. A comment was made about the NTSB being derelict in not actually visiting the accident site. Copyright 2021 KPLC. The 737-800 is a twin-engine, single-aisle plane commonly used for short and medium-haul flights. CG issue may be it. They say Palermo sometimes helped out at their school, Plane Simple Flight School. Investigators said there was so much damage it limited how much they could investigate. Id say he just wasnt able to retrieve from wherever it was. Palermo was an instructor on the flight and Clements was a student. The families have been notified, the sheriff said. I missed the nose down attitude observed by witnesses. Plane was owned by an aviation company in Sulfur. And he was good at all three of them.. Hackberry, LA (KPLC) - The National Transportation Safety Board has released the report on its investigation of a deadly plane crash in Hackberry. Palermo was an attorney for the Calcasieu Parish Sheriff's Office, they said. if I need to take the controls, I will take the controls, said Kerbow. CNN Five people who worked for an environmental response consulting firm were killed in a plane crash Wednesday in Little Rock, Arkansas, while on their way to a metal factory explosion site. Easier to commit suicide solo, but looks more like an accident if there are two in the plane. He kept me composed. NORTH PLATTE, Neb. High speed nose down impact. Many parts and pieces were left behind at the crash site, including the third blade!! Dr Mary Lou Clements-Mann, epidemiologist and leading researcher on AIDS vaccines, dies with her husband, Dr Jonathan Max Mann, in Swissair plane crash off Nova Scotia; couple were on their way to . Baton Rouge man arrested in Ascension horse theft; one adult, two minors Southern University AgCenter's Livestock Show celebrates its 80th anniversary, St. John's big inning hands Southeastern second straight loss, Coach Kim Mulkey talks LSU's record-tying season. NEW ORLEANS The pilot who died in a Feb. 2 plane crash in Louisiana had just bought a share in the aircraft, and the other man killed in the crash was his instructor, the National. It flew great with a two-blade prop. The plane that crashed Monday was a Boeing 737-800, not the Boeing 737 Max, a newer model that was temporarily grounded worldwide following two deadly crashes in Indonesia and Ethiopia.